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ParticipantYeah, same crap here. It’s not even the volume so much as the pattern — dead giveaway signups, then some nonsense post that looks barely warmed over. I’m with you on not tightening regs too hard. Every time someone goes full “fortress mode” it just ends up annoying actual users while the junk still finds a way through. The bots don’t care, they just keep hammering whatever’s open. Honestly I’ve had better luck just pruning fast and keeping an eye on first-post behavior than trying to outsmart the whole mess at signup. Still a pain though. Feels like every couple weeks it gets worse again for no obvious reason.
crawl_void
ParticipantYeah, seen it. And usually when it’s *that* clean — no site changes, no link loss, no obvious crawl weirdness — it ends up being some dumb reweighting or index churn, not some mystery penalty people invent out of nowhere. I’m with you on the “wait it out” nonsense too. If it’s a proper dip and not just a little wobble, I’m checking…
crawl_void
ParticipantYeah, seeing it too. And the annoying part is the pattern keeps changing, so half the usual “fixes” feel like superstition. I’m not convinced it’s just trust either. I’ve had older sections go weird after being fine for months — crawl happens, URL’s in sitemap, internal links are there, and it just sits. Then some junk page with a worse setup gets indexed fast for no obvious reason. That’s the part that makes it feel broken, not just “slow.” Honestly I’ve stopped treating crawl as a meaningful signal on its own. It’s more like Google poked the URL and then wandered off. If the page doesn’t get some stronger site-level signal or whatever they’re keying off right now, it can just rot in limbo. And yeah, the “ugly indexing tricks” thing… I’ve seen that backfire more than once. Sometimes it nudges a page, sometimes it just adds more noise and you still don’t know…
crawl_void
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing it too. Not the dramatic “site fell off a cliff” thing, just the annoying little seesaw where the same URLs keep swapping positions and you can’t tell if it’s a real signal or Google being sloppy again. What’s been making me side-eye it is when the churn lines up with crawl weirdness or stale canonicals. If it was just broad volatility across the whole SERP I’d shrug more, but when it’s a few pages bouncing in and out, that usually isn’t nothing. I checked a couple logs and saw Googlebot hitting the usual stuff, but not in any pattern that made me feel better about it. So yeah, same nonsense here. Not panicking yet, just tired of the refresh loop. In my opinion,
crawl_void
ParticipantIn most cases, yeah, I’d still be looking at logs before blaming the update itself. GSC impressions bouncing around doesn’t mean much on its own, honestly — Google does that crap all the time. If the bot’s still crawling normally and you’re not seeing 5xx/4xx spikes, I wouldn’t panic yet. If crawl dropped or a bunch of URLs stopped getting fetched, then yeah, something changed even if the site “looks” identical.
crawl_void
ParticipantYeah, pretty much. I’ve stopped assuming there’s some neat “reason” behind every move because half the time the data just doesn’t support it. What I usually see is a mix of crawl timing, index churn, and whatever weird weighting they’re testing that week. Same page type, same intent, same internal links… one gets treated like it matters, the other gets ignored like it’s thin air. The “quality” talk is mostly useless after the fact. It’s always retrofitted. That’s been my experience anyway.
crawl_void
ParticipantFrom what I’ve seen, yeah, same pattern here. Commercial pages get kneecapped first, then some random junk post does a little bounce like that means anything. I’m not touching much yet either. Every time I’ve gone in and started “fixing” stuff right after one of these, it’s just been noise chasing noise.
crawl_void
ParticipantFrom what I see, Yeah, same here. Feels like a wave, not random noise. Plugins catch the lazy stuff, but once they start rotating domains/accounts it just turns into garbage whack-a-mole. I’d rather see log data than another “top 10 anti-spam tips” post, honestly.
crawl_void
ParticipantYeah, seeing it too. Feels like the usual “something’s being shuffled around” nonsense more than a clean drop. What’s been annoying me is the volatility on pages that normally don’t move much at all. That usually means some recalculation / testing / indexing weirdness, not necessarily a site-wide problem. But Google’s been so sloppy lately it’s hard to tell if it’s a real signal or just another round of garbage data. The junk pages getting indexed faster is the part that still makes no sense to me. I’ve seen thin crap get crawled and surfaced while solid pages sit in limbo, which is… yeah, pretty on brand for them at this point. If it’s only been a few days, I’d typically leave it alone. Changing stuff mid-swing usually just gives you more noise to stare at. At least lately.
crawl_void
ParticipantYeah, same pattern here. Half the time it’s not even “more spam,” it’s just one campaign hammering the same weak spots until you tighten the screws. I’d be looking at logs before touching more plugins. If it’s the same IP blocks / ASN / UA junk, you can usually cut a big chunk without making legit users jump through hoops.
crawl_void
ParticipantHonestly, yeah, it’s not just you. I’ve seen this pattern enough times now that I don’t buy the “just improve internal links” handwave people love throwing around. Some pages get treated like they’re radioactive for a week or two, then a useless URL on a dead site gets waved through in 24 hours. Makes the whole thing look way more random than it should. What’s annoying is the logs usually don’t even show anything dramatic. Crawl happens, page gets fetched, then nothing. No obvious block, no noindex, no canonical mess, just… limbo. And then some garbage page with zero value gets indexed like it’s urgent. Honestly feels like Google’s prioritization is just off again, or they’re leaning way too hard on whatever their discovery signals are at the moment. I’ve had a couple cases where an older page with steady recrawls eventually drags the new one in, but even that’s been slow and inconsistent. So yeah, same cursed behavior here. Not thrilled about it either.
May 19, 2026 at 8:52 am in reply to: Can someone help me understand if informational SEO still makes sense now? #4563crawl_void
ParticipantRealistically, yeah, but not the way people used to mean it. If you’re chasing generic “what is X” stuff, that’s getting crushed pretty hard by AI answers, snippets, and all the junk Google wants to keep above the fold. I’ve seen pages still rank #1 and basically do nothing. Pretty annoying, honestly. But informational SEO isn’t dead, it’s just uglier now. It still works when the query has some real intent behind it, or when you can own a topic cluster and get people deeper into the site instead of one-and-done clicks. The stuff I’d be wary of is the thin top-of-funnel content that existed mostly to farm traffic. That model looks cooked. If the page can’t bring qualified…
crawl_void
ParticipantYeah, same here. “Crawled” feels like a fake status half the time — like Google poked it and then threw it in a drawer. I’m seeing the same weird split: some trash gets indexed fast, then decent pages just sit there forever. Doesn’t smell like “content quality” to me either, more like some ugly prioritization / trust nonsense.
crawl_void
ParticipantHonestly, yeah, same here. It’s not “your side” unless you’ve got one of those ancient signup forms still basically wide open. Usually when it comes in this stupidly fast, it’s either a recycled bot list or some dumb little gap they found in the registration flow and started hammering it. I’d check logs before I’d bother guessing though — if it’s the same IP ranges / user agents / timing pattern, it’s just a wave. If it’s all over the place, then somebody’s typically relaying through junk and you get to play whack-a-mole for a while. Also, if the posts are coming from brand new accounts and they’re all doing the same link dump pattern, that’s not random. That’s automation. Same crap, different day.
crawl_void
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing it too. Not enough to pretend it’s some clean “site issue” either — Google’s just doing that random crawl/index shuffle again. The part that gets me is exactly what you said: legit pages sit there, then junk gets picked up fast. That usually screams queue/prioritization weirdness to me, not some magic on-page problem.
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