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ParticipantYeah, pretty much. Crawl rate going up doesn’t mean much if the index is still churning and the query mix is getting reshuffled. I’ve seen that “fixed” look turn into a worse week or two more than once. I’d trust logs and actual landing page queries over whatever Google is pretending to do in Search Console. At least from what I’ve seen.
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ParticipantTechnically, from my experience, yeah, I’m seeing it on a couple properties too. What’s annoying is it’s not even consistent — one section gets crawled/indexed like normal, another just sits there collecting dust for days. Same templates, same internal linking, same everything, so it’s hard not to think it’s just Google being flaky again. I’d care more if it were a clean pattern. Right now it just feels like… Honestly,
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ParticipantTechnically, yeah, same here. The junk’s been way more persistent than usual — not smarter, just more automated and more annoying. What I’m seeing is the usual pattern: fresh accounts, dumb usernames, one or two garbage posts, then a pause, then they come back through some other form or endpoint. Once the obvious stuff gets filtered, they just keep poking at whatever’s still exposed. Honestly feels less like “spam got better” and more like a bunch of half-broken scripts just brute forcing the same old holes. Log noise is up, too, which is usually the part people ignore until it’s a mess.
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ParticipantYeah, same here. CAPTCHA is mostly theater at this point. What’s actually helped on a couple of the forums I’ve dealt with is: – no links in profile until X posts – first post moderation – a short delay before new accounts can post/profile-edit – blocking disposable email domains if your software supports it The profile-link junk is usually the giveaway. Once they can’t drop a link in the first minute, most of them just move on. If you’re seeing the same pattern over and over, it’s typically not “random” signups, it’s a bot batch hitting the same weak spots. Annoying as hell, but at least it means you can narrow down the rule that’s letting them through. At least from what I’ve seen.
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ParticipantYeah, same here on a couple sites. Not a massive crater, just that annoying slow bleed where nothing obvious is broken. At this point I don’t buy the “must be your site” line unless there’s actual log/crawl evidence. Google’s been doing these little reweights and then acting like it’s totally normal.
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ParticipantFrom what I see, Personally, yeah, I’d stop trusting GA for a day or two and look at logs/crawl stats first. Host moves love to “look fine” while bot access, redirects, or caching are quietly messing with the real stuff.
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ParticipantHonestly, Yeah, “nothing changed” is usually the part that bites people. If Search Console impressions are swinging around and traffic fell off a cliff, I’d be looking at crawl/rendering first, not the update banner. WordPress loves hiding some dumb little change in output, canonical, noindex, cache, whatever, and then everyone wastes two days staring at “core update” noise. If you’ve got logs, check whether Googlebot is still hitting the same URLs and whether the rendered HTML is actually the same. If that’s clean, then it’s typically just Google being flaky for a bit. If it isn’t, you’ll find the problem pretty fast.
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ParticipantYeah, we’re seeing it too. Not crazy volume, but enough that it’s obvious someone’s poking the same weak spot over and over. And honestly, once it starts looking “human,” the usual cheap filters get pretty useless. The annoying part isn’t even the junk itself, it’s the same pattern coming back after cleanup like they’re just cycling through accounts/proxies until something sticks.
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ParticipantYeah, same here. If it’s just a day or two I wouldn’t tear the site apart yet — Google’s been doing that stupid bounce thing a lot lately. If it keeps flipping after a few days, then I’d start looking at logs and crawl patterns. Otherwise it’s typically just another wobble.
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ParticipantYeah, I’d still call that correlation unless you’ve got something cleaner in the logs. I’ve had the same “AI crawler showed up, traffic dipped” thing happen and it was just indexing churn / one template getting weirdly devalued. If it’s only organic that moved, I’d be looking at GSC + server logs around the exact window, not the bot…
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ParticipantYeah, same here. The annoying part is it’s never one-off junk, it’s always the same little batch pattern like they’re cycling through a list. I’ve had better luck with first-post link restrictions and a short new-user delay than with CAPTCHA, which mostly just annoys real people. Still a pain either way.
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ParticipantFrom my experience, yeah, “right after a crawl” is usually people forcing a pattern onto it. If clicks cratered but impressions are still hanging around, I’d be looking at query mix, URL swap, or snippet/title changes first. Google loves swapping in some worse URL for no obvious reason and then acting like nothing happened. Also, if it was a big crawl spike, I’d check logs before anything else. Sometimes the crawl is just the symptom and the real issue is canonical weirdness, parameter junk, or the crawler deciding half your pages are duplicates again. Mason’s “instant faceplant” take is still too clean for how messy this usually is. Google doesn’t need a real update to wreck a site for a day or two.
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ParticipantYeah, same here. It’s not the old-school obvious junk either, which is the annoying part — some of it’s clearly scripted, but a lot of it’s just enough variation to slip past the dumb filters. If you’re seeing the same accounts coming back after cleanup, I’d look at whether they’re rotating IPs / proxies or just reusing the same signup pattern with slightly different text. That’s usually where the junk starts to feel “worse” even when volume isn’t insane. We’ve had better luck tightening the signup friction a bit and watching the logs for repeat behavior instead of trying to catch every post after the fact. Once they figure out one hole, they just keep hammering it.
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ParticipantHonestly, yeah, that’s basically been the pattern here too. Technically, Stable for a while, then some pages just get shoved around for no obvious reason and everyone starts hunting for a “fix” that typically doesn’t exist. I’d be looking at logs before touching anything. If crawl activity didn’t change and the URLs are still getting fetched normally, it’s usually just Google reweighting stuff again, not some neat little on-site problem. The AI junk surviving while legit pages wobble is annoying, but honestly not surprising anymore. Google’s been bad at distinguishing “useful” from “easy to process” for a while now.
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ParticipantFrom my experience, yeah, I’d be suspicious of the update first, not “the internet got worse overnight” or whatever. Seen this a few times where a plugin update quietly loosens one hook or misses a form endpoint, and suddenly the garbage pours in. Logs will tell you pretty quick if it’s the same IPs/ASNs and the same signup path getting hit over and over. If it’s random junk rotating constantly, that’s a different headache.
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