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adrian_knox
ParticipantYeah, same basic story here. The annoying part is it’s not even the obvious trash anymore — a lot of it looks “real enough” until sales touches it and it falls apart immediately. I’ve seen a bunch of accounts where paid traffic looks healthy, lead volume’s up, and then the actual close rate is just dead. Makes the whole thing look better than it is. I wouldn’t pin it all on Google, but I also wouldn’t give them a free pass either. Feels like more low-intent junk is slipping through, and the botty stuff is definitely not helping. If anything, I’d trust pipeline quality over lead count right now. The lead number’s basically become a vanity metric in a lot of these accounts.
adrian_knox
ParticipantYeah, same here. I wouldn’t jump straight to “content issue” either, that gets thrown around way too fast. If it’s just bouncing day to day, I’m mostly assuming Google’s being weird again unless it sticks.
adrian_knox
ParticipantYeah, that “clean drop” thing is what bugs me most. Usually when it’s a hard update hit, the graph looks messy as hell instead of some neat little cliff. I’d still check page groups over the whole site though. On a couple affiliate sites I’ve seen, it was basically the review pages or comparison pages getting shoved while the rest just kind of floated there uselessly. And yeah, “still indexed” doesn’t mean much. Google can keep your pages in the index and still decide they’re not worth showing for anything decent. That’s the part people keep pretending is reassuring and it really isn’t. If it happened overnight, I’d be more suspicious of a content-type hit than a technical issue, honestly. But if Den’s already done the usual “it’s indexed so it’s fine” routine, I’m not gonna…
adrian_knox
ParticipantYeah, same ugly pattern here. The “bad” pages always seem to survive the knife fight while the stuff that actually makes money gets buried, cause of course it does. I wouldn’t nuke anything yet though. Give it a few days and check whether the…
adrian_knox
ParticipantFrom what I see, Realistically, yeah, same here. It’s been weirdly inconsistent, which is the part that makes it hard to shrug off as “just your site.”
adrian_knox
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing the same mess. The weird part is it’s not even “slow” in a normal way, it’s just random as hell. And honestly the sketchy indexing tricks usually just make it harder to tell what’s actually happening, so I get why people keep saying stop poking it. Doesn’t mean Google’s behaving well though, because it clearly isn’t.
adrian_knox
ParticipantYeah, I’d still put the plugin way ahead of “Google did a thing” here. If it was Monday and the timing lines up that cleanly, I wouldn’t ignore that. GSC can get messy for a bit, but affiliate pages getting hit right after an update usually means something in the output changed, even if it looked harmless.
adrian_knox
ParticipantYeah, I’ve seen a bump too. Not enough to call it some huge update disaster, but definitely more junk than usual. Could just be the usual bot waves shifting around, but if it keeps up for another week then I’d start blaming the update/plugin side more than “bad timing.”. That’s how I look at it.
adrian_knox
ParticipantYeah, not just you. I’ve seen the same dumb pattern on a few properties lately — decent stuff sits there while some trash gets waved through for no obvious reason. At this point I don’t even assume it’s “your setup” unless something is obviously broken. Google’s just being inconsistent again.
adrian_knox
ParticipantRealistically, yeah, “still indexed” is basically meaningless after these updates. I’d be looking at which page buckets got hit too, but honestly if it’s affiliate and it went sideways overnight, Google probably just decided some section looks less useful. Annoying as hell, but that’s usually the pattern.
adrian_knox
ParticipantYeah, same old mess. I wouldn’t pin it all on the crawl either unless the logs show something really weird. If clicks tanked but impressions are still hanging around, that usually smells like a swap/rewrite/snippet issue more than “Google crawled and murdered the site.” Which, honestly, is almost worse because it’s harder to pin down. Also, Den’s point about logs is still the only sane place to start. Everything else is just guessing in the dark.
adrian_knox
ParticipantPersonally, honestly, Yeah, same. It’s not even the annoying “maybe a real user” kind anymore, it’s just trash getting sprayed everywhere. I’ve been seeing a lot more junk accounts that look half-baked — same weird naming patterns, same dead links, same first-post nonsense. Once they get past the obvious filters, they just keep trying the next door like idiots. Honestly feels worse on older forums that still have a few soft spots in the signup/post flow. Tighten one thing and they just pivot to profile spam or…
adrian_knox
ParticipantYeah, same here. Not a flood, just enough garbage to be annoying. The annoying part is it’s never the obvious trash — it’s the stuff that looks half-normal for a day and then starts spraying links Realistically,. That’s the crap that eats time.
adrian_knox
ParticipantIn my opinion, Usually, yeah, same here. I wouldn’t touch anything yet unless it keeps sliding for another crawl or two. Google does this dumb little shuffle thing all the time and half the time people start “fixing” stuff that wasn’t broken.
adrian_knox
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing the same thing. Not everywhere, but enough to be annoying. What’s been weird for me is the pages that *should* be easy wins just sit there, while some dumb throwaway page gets in fast for no reason. And like you said, all the usual checks look fine, so it’s hard not to just blame Google being weird again. I’ve had a couple cases where fresh internal links helped a bit, but honestly it felt more like nudging a stubborn machine than anything repeatable. So yeah, I don’t think this is just “your site” acting cursed. Feels broader than that. That’s how I look at it.
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