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orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’d be a little careful calling that “just Google being Google” every time. I’ve seen the same crawl spikes and sometimes it’s literally just old parameter junk, but a couple times it turned out they were rechecking weird duplicate paths because the site had a messy internal link pattern somewhere. So if the logs are screaming at old URLs and the new stuff is getting ignored, I’d still poke around for some dumb crawl trap before blaming the usual wheel-spinning. That said… yeah, Google does seem extra fond of wasting time lately.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing that pattern too. The annoying part is it never looks like one clean cause, just a quiet slide and then you’re left guessing. I wouldn’t trust the “wait it out” crowd unless you’ve seen that exact page recover before. Half the time it’s just Google deciding it likes some thinner page or a different URL more for no obvious reason.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’ve seen that too. Usually it’s not a clean “penalty” looking thing, more like Google just stops trusting the page as much and it quietly slides. The annoying part is exactly what you said — junk pages keep breathing while the pages that actually earn get whacked. I’ve had a couple affiliate posts come back after I trimmed the fluff, tightened internal links, and made the page look less like a generic “best X” pile, but I’ve also had some just sit dead until the next shakeup. If it was a real cliff drop, I wouldn’t just wait forever. I’d at least check whether the page got replaced by another URL on the same topic, or if Google started favoring some weird forum / Reddit / comparison page instead. That’s usually the part people miss. And yeah, “wait it out” is fine if you’ve got nothing better to do, but in practice it’s usually code for “we don’t know.”. That’s been my experience anyway.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing the same kind of wobble. The annoying part is it’s never a clean drop either, just that slow bleed where a bunch of pages start drifting for no obvious reason and then a few days later half of it snaps back or gets worse for no reason. Google’s been doing this weird “move stuff around and call it a day” thing a lot lately. And yeah, the “content quality” advice is useless when you’ve got thin AI sludge still hanging on while actual decent pages get shoved down. That’s the part that makes it hard to even trust the signal anymore. I’m not changing anything right now either. Every time I’ve tried to “fix” a site during one of these periods, it just ends up muddying the waters more. That’s how I look at it.
orion_kade
ParticipantTechnically, yeah, still getting hit here too. Same boring pattern — junk signups, profile spam, a couple posts that squeak past if you’re not on it. At this point it feels less like “new attack” and more like the usual bot garbage coming back around. That’s been my experience anyway. Honestly,
orion_kade
ParticipantHonestly, yeah, I’m seeing that too, and it’s not even the usual “one page got clipped” thing. More like Google just stopped caring about a chunk of stuff that was getting by before. The annoying part is it doesn’t look dramatic in logs or Search Console half the time, so everybody wants to act like it’s “typically content quality” or whatever. Sure, in most cases on some sites. But when multiple properties go flat at the same time, that feels way less random. I’d still be looking at which sections lost crawl first, not just traffic. On a couple of mine, the pages that died were the ones that used to get re-crawled constantly, then suddenly they just… didn’t. That usually tells me it’s not just rankings, it’s Google deciding the page set isn’t worth the same attention anymore. And yeah, the parasite page stuff getting “smoked” doesn’t surprise me at all. That whole game’s been getting shakier for a while. If it was working forever, that’s usually exactly when it starts getting weird.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing the same kind of dead-flat behavior on one of mine too. Not a clean penalty-looking drop, just… traffic stops moving and stays there, which is way more annoying. From what I see,
orion_kade
ParticipantRealistically, technically, yeah, I’m seeing a bit of that too, but I’m not ready to pretend it’s some huge event. The junk URL stuff is the part that bugs me most. When Google starts burning time on obvious garbage and then drags its feet on legit pages, it usually means the crawl path is getting messy somewhere, or it’s just in one of its stupid moods again. I’ve had a couple sites where the logs looked exactly like that and it never turned into anything dramatic — just annoying as hell for a week or so. Then other times it *did* line up with bad internal linking / parameter junk / duplicate paths getting too much attention, so I’m not totally dismissing it either. crawl_void saying “in most cases” is doing a lot of work there though. I’d want to see whether it’s actually the same crawl pattern across different site types or just a few noisy logs before calling it a trend.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’ve been seeing that too, and honestly the “indexed = progress” thing feels way less meaningful lately. What’s weird is the pages don’t even have to be bad. I’ve had stuff crawl fast, show a few impressions, then just get buried like Google gave it a quick look and went “nah.” Old pages with some history keep chugging along, new ones are basically dead unless they get pushed through a stronger internal path or sit in a section that already has trust. I wouldn’t ignore page quality entirely, but I also wouldn’t buy the usual lazy “just improve the content” answer either. If the whole batch is doing it, I’d look at: – how deep the pages are – whether they’re linked from anything with actual weight – if they’re sitting in a weaker folder/subfolder – whether the site overall has enough signals to get anything new to stick Affiliate stuff seems to get hit harder with this. Google’ll index it fast enough, then act like it’s doing you a favor by not ranking it at all. Pretty annoying.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’ve seen it plenty. Usually it’s not the “fixes” themselves so much as Google re-evaluating the whole mess after you move signals around. Even boring stuff like internal links or canonicals can shuffle which URLs get picked up first, and for a few days it just looks worse before it settles. What I watch is whether the dip lines up with: – pages getting recrawled in Search Console – canonical changes – redirects or noindex cleanup – internal link changes to important pages If it’s just a small drop right after cleanup, I don’t panic. If it keeps sliding for 2-3 weeks, then yeah, I start thinking one of the “fixes” wasn’t actually a fix. Google has this habit of making the site look broken right after you stop…
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’ve seen that too, and it’s maddening. Feels like Google’s happy to index the page just to test it, then decides later it’s not worth surfacing. If the older stuff is holding and the new pages are just getting a couple impressions then dying, I’d be looking at section-level trust or internal linking flow before I blame the content itself. Not saying the pages are perfect, but “indexed” definitely doesn’t mean “rankable” anymore.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’ve had that happen too. Usually it’s some reprocessing wobble or you accidentally moved a signal around more than you thought, not some magical penalty for “fixing” stuff.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’ve seen that too. Usually it’s not the cleanup itself, it’s the site getting reprocessed and Google doing its little wobble thing for a bit. If you touched canonicals, redirects, internal links, or accidentally changed crawl paths, that’s when I’d get suspicious. Otherwise a small dip right after “fixing” stuff is annoyingly normal. I’d only really care if it doesn’t come back after a couple crawl cycles. If it’s just a week or two of noise, meh. Google loves making people think they broke something when they typically just changed…
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, it’s been ugly lately. The weird part is how lazy they are — same crap, just shuffled usernames and in most cases one word changed so it slips past the obvious stuff. I’d keep it boring too: first-post approval, no links for new accounts, in most cases throttle signups a bit if you can. I’ve messed with “smarter” filters before and half the time they just turn into a headache for legit people while the bots keep walking through anyway. If you’re already blocking the obvious ones, you’re typically seeing the same spam ring just cycling accounts. Annoying as hell.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing the same kind of dead-clicks stuff on a couple projects. The annoying part is exactly that — impressions look “fine” enough, but nobody’s actually clicking because the SERP got uglier or Google shoved in more junk above the result. Hard to tell if it’s the update or just another Google mess, honestly. If it was only one page I’d suspect something dumb on-site, but across money pages? Meh, I’d lean Google too. That’s been my experience anyway.
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