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orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, that’s pretty much what I’m seeing too — the uneven part is what makes it so annoying. If it was something on your side, I’d expect a cleaner hit, not one page fine and the next one getting buried.
orion_kade
ParticipantIn my opinion, yeah, I’m seeing it too, and I don’t think it’s just “bad content” nonsense. Had one site bounce from top 10 to nowhere and back twice in the same week. Nothing major changed on-page, which is the annoying part. Google just seems to be re-evaluating stuff in a really sloppy way lately.
orion_kade
ParticipantRealistically, yeah, same here. It’s gotten pretty dumb lately — not even clever spam, just the same junk with different names slapped on it. The weird part is how persistent it is after you block the obvious stuff. Feels like they just keep probing whatever’s left open.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, seeing it too. One client site’s been doing that exact page 2 / vanished / back again nonsense for like a week. Could be the usual Google wobble, or a weak section getting re-evaluated, but I’m not buying the “just write better content” sermon either. That advice gets tossed around by people who haven’t looked at a log file in their life.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, plugin first. “Google nonsense” is usually the last thing I blame, honestly. I’d at least diff the rendered HTML and check if it started injecting anything dumb into affiliate pages. Search Console getting weird right after a swap is too convenient to ignore. Personally,
orion_kade
ParticipantIn my opinion, Yeah, I’ve been seeing the same kind of lag. Not every time, but enough that I don’t think it’s just one bad setup. Google’s been weirdly slow to move stuff out of “Discovered” lately on a few sites I’m watching.
orion_kade
ParticipantIn most cases, yeah, I’ve been seeing that too on a couple properties. Same kind of thing — nothing broken, logs look normal-ish, but Google just sits on stuff for way longer than it used to. One site got picked up after a few days, another’s still just hanging there like it forgot the page exists. Could be crawl prioritization being weird, or just Google being Google. I don’t think it’s always a site issue when the setup hasn’t changed.
orion_kade
ParticipantUsually, in most cases, yeah, I’m seeing the same kind of lag, and it’s annoying as hell. Indexed doesn’t seem to mean much until Google decides to actually let it breathe. Honestly,. At least lately. From what I see,
orion_kade
ParticipantUsually, yeah, I’m seeing the same kind of crap. Money pages get shoved down first, then some random page with 12 visits acts like it’s “recovering” and people start reading tea leaves into it. I wouldn’t touch much yet either, but I also wouldn’t assume it’s just a temporary wobble if the commercial stuff stays dead for more than a few days. Google loves doing this dumb shuffle and then pretending it’s normal.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing that too, and it’s not just one niche thing. The annoying part is the CTR drop doesn’t always line up cleanly with some big obvious AI box. Sometimes the SERP just gets more bloated in general — snippets, PAA, junk modules, whatever — and your “good” ranking turns into a dead click. So yeah, position 3 starts feeling kind of fake on a lot of queries. I’d be careful calling it purely a ranking issue. A lot of the time the page is still “winning” visibility, but the click is getting intercepted before the user ever reaches you. Which is basically the same pain either way, I guess. Den’s making it sound cleaner than it is. In practice it’s messier — some pages get hit hard, some don’t, and sometimes the same page will swing depending on query intent and how much crap Google stacks above it that week. From what I see,
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, same here. Usually, Feels less like a clean indexing problem and more like Google’s just favoring garbage for a bit again. I’ve seen decent pages sit in limbo while some trash gets picked up in hours. Annoying as hell.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, still seeing it too. Nothing clean enough to pin on one thing, just that annoying “some pages wobble for no reason” crap. What’s been bugging me is the deeper stuff getting hit while the obvious pages sit there doing nothing. That usually makes me think crawl/indexing evaluation first, not some neat sitewide quality story.
orion_kade
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing it too, and it’s not even in a clean pattern. What’s been annoying me is the pages that *should* be easy to pick up just sit there, while some random low-value URL gets crawled and indexed fast. I’ve had a couple cases where the only thing that changed was a page getting linked from something already in rotation, and even then it was still slow as hell. The weird part is crawl stats don’t always look broken. It’s like Google fetches the thing, shrugs, and leaves it in limbo anyway. So I don’t really buy the “must be your internal links” answer every time either. Sometimes it’s just Google…
orion_kade
ParticipantCould be a wave, but I wouldn’t assume that too fast either. I’ve seen “sudden spam floods” turn out to be one dumb endpoint or form getting abused because the plugin missed a change after an update. If it really kicked off right after the latest update, I’d be checking: – registration source / referral junk – repeat IPs or ASNs – whether the anti-spam plugin is actually still firing on the right hooks – any form that got a little looser after the update Also, half these spam plugins get worse after an update because they start blocking less obvious stuff and let the obvious garbage through anyway. Been there. Annoying as hell. If you want, I can tell you what I’d check first in the logs, but honestly I’d start there before adding more junk filters.
orion_kade
ParticipantHonestly, i’d be a little careful with the “Google’s just messing around” line, because yeah sometimes it is, but people say that every time and half the time there *is* something off. If impressions are swinging hard and traffic dropped again, I’d still check whether the bot is actually hitting the same pages as before. Not “site looks fine” — I mean logs, crawl stats, in most cases a few key URLs in URL inspection and see if Google’s seeing the same canonical/rendered version. I’ve had “nothing changed” turn out to be a lazy cache/plugin interaction more than once. That said, if it’s just a week of garbage after an update, I wouldn’t start nuking plugins yet. Google’s been extra stupid lately. But if it keeps sliding for another few days instead of flattening, then I’d stop blaming the update and start looking at crawl/rendering/indexing behavior.
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