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axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing the same garbage. Usually when it does that for me, it’s either a wobble in indexing/canonical stuff or just one of those weird query mix shifts that makes the graph look way worse than it is for 24–72 hours. I wouldn’t touch anything yet, honestly.
axelrowan
ParticipantFrom what I see, From what I’ve seen, yeah, I’ve seen that. “Performance” plugins are usually the first thing I’d blame, especially if it’s only certain URLs and not the whole site. Had one case where a lazy update flipped a bunch of JS delay settings and broke rendering on product posts, which then looked like crawl/indexing weirdness in GSC. If the affected pages share the same template or some affiliate module, I’d be looking there first, not at Google.
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, I’d still look at the boring stuff first — plugin/cache/minify nonsense can absolutely tank clicks without anything looking “broken.” If GSC is clean-ish, I’d check: – recent plugin updates – canonicals / noindex getting messed with – rendered HTML vs source – crawl hits in logs if you’ve got them “Google being weird” happens, sure, but half the time…
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, I’d be looking at logs and SERP volatility before I start blaming “quality” for it. Overnight drops usually feel more like a re-shuffle / devaluation swing than some sudden site-wide revelation. If the crawl patterns changed or a chunk of URLs got less frequent hits, that’s the part I’d trust more than whatever Google’s pretending in Search Console Technically,.
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing it too. Not a total faceplant, just enough churn to make you question whether anything’s stable for more than 48 hours. I’d be a lot more suspicious if it was the same URLs flipping in and out, though. That usually isn’t just “weather,” even if people love saying that. From what I see,
axelrowan
ParticipantYep, same here — I’m not calling it a real drop on day one unless it sticks past midweek. Usually it’s just Google doing its usual dumb shuffle and making the money pages look worse while some garbage URL gets a…
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, I’ve seen it more than I used to. The annoying part is it’s often not even a “conflict” in the clean sense, it’s just two plugins both hooking the same AJAX/cache/cron path and then one update changes timing a bit and the whole thing goes sideways. The “disable everything” advice is fine for a local test, but in production it’s usually useless noise.
axelrowan
ParticipantIn most cases, yeah, if GSC isn’t showing a crawl/indexing mess, I’d still lean site-side first. I’ve seen “random” drops turn out to be cache/minify/plugin weirdness more times than I care to admit. Especially if it’s only a couple pages that tanked first and then the rest followed.
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, “nothing changed” usually means something changed anyway, just not where you’re looking. I’d be checking logs / crawl hits before I start blaming Google again. If it’s a plugin thing, it’s often some dumb header, canonicals, noindex, or busted rendering from cache/minify junk. Seen that way too many times.
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, I wouldn’t read much into the “indexed” part by itself anymore. Google’s been pretty happy to crawl stuff, give it a tiny test drive, then basically shelve it if it doesn’t like the site/section/intent match. I’ve seen the same thing on newer sections where the pages are technically clean, render fine, logs look normal, all that. Still just… nothing. Old pages keep the juice, new ones get the cold shoulder. Not saying content never matters, but “just improve the content” is such a lazy answer for this one. Could be wrong though.
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, same here. Not a clean “oops one update” drop either, just weird click erosion while impressions hang around. I’ve seen this before when intent shifts a bit and Google starts serving junkier SERPs for a few days… or longer, because of course it does. I wouldn’t call it normal, but I also wouldn’t assume it’s all on-site if nothing changed. At least from what I’ve seen. Personally,
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, I’d be looking at logs before I’d touch anything else too. If impressions are swinging like that, it’s not always a clean “site broke” situation. I’ve seen updates shuffle crawl patterns around for a bit, then settle, and it looks way worse in GSC than it really is. Still, if the bot’s getting slower responses, weird canonicals, or even just fewer hits on the pages that used to move, that’s usually where the problem is hiding. Also, “same plugins” doesn’t always mean same behavior. One update can change headers, cache rules, or how pages render just enough to mess with indexing without anything obvious blowing up. If it’s been more than a few days and it’s still dropping, I’d be less patient. Google can be flaky, sure, but it’s also… From what I see,
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, but “rankings look fine” has burned people for years. I’d still want to see whether impressions actually moved or if Google just started serving worse junk around you. If it’s a real drop in both clicks and impressions, then I’d stop blaming SERPs and look at crawl/indexing, canonicals, internal links, or some dumb template change. If it’s mostly clicks, it’s typically the usual Google mess.
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, same here. The weird part is it’s not even “slow crawl” in any normal sense, it’s just selective as hell. I’ve seen clean pages with decent internal links sit in Discovered for days while some random deeper URL gets picked up first. Logs usually don’t show much beyond the homepage, a couple hubs, then nothing. That’s why I don’t buy the “must be a content problem” line every time — sometimes it really does look like crawl prioritization just went sideways. What I’ve noticed lately is that pages with weaker pathing from the homepage seem to get ignored longer, even if they’re in the sitemap and linked internally. Not a hard rule, just enough of a pattern to be annoying. And yeah, rendering can make it worse, but if you’re not seeing JS issues on your side, I’d still suspect queueing / discovery priority before anything else. Honestly feels like one of those weeks where Google’s just being Google again.
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, I’m not really buying the “normal wobble” thing either if it’s the same URLs doing the hokey pokey every couple days. Feels more like reprocessing / intent churn than anything clean. The annoying part is when nothing obvious changed on the site and GSC still acts like somebody kicked the server rack. At least from what I’ve seen.
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