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axelrowan
ParticipantIn most cases, yeah, I’ve seen that pattern too. The “discovered” limbo usually means Google’s poking at it without committing, which is way different from normal crawl budget stuff. The path changing part is the weird one. That’s usually where I start thinking canonical / duplicate / property trust weirdness, not just “they’re slow.” Google loves acting like it found something new when it’s really just re-evaluating the same junk in a different wrapper. Honestly I’d be more suspicious of whatever signals the property is sending than the page itself. Same setup, same links, same result changing anyway = classic Google being inconsistent 🙄
axelrowan
ParticipantPersonally, in my opinion, Yeah, I’d still look hard at that cleanup before blaming some “Google just hated me today” thing. The annoying part is it doesn’t have to be a big edit to move the needle. I’ve seen pages drop after shaving off what looked like useless text, because that junk was actually giving the page enough topical weight / long-tail coverage / whatever you wanna call it. Google can be pretty dumb about that stuff. If you changed internal links too, that’s another easy way to kneecap a page without meaning to. Not saying that’s definitely it, but “same page” usually isn’t really the same page once you start trimming. I’d compare the old version vs new version and see what got silently lost. That’s usually where… From what I see,
axelrowan
ParticipantFrom what I’ve seen, yeah, same pattern here. It’s never just “a few spammers” anymore, it’s batches hitting the same weak spots over and over. What’s helped me more than CAPTCHA junk is just shutting off the easy abuse points for brand new accounts — profiles, signatures, links, whatever. CAPTCHA feels like busywork at this point. Most of the bots I’ve seen don’t care, they just burn through it or use human-solved stuff anyway. The annoying part is when you clean 20-30 accounts and the next wave looks exactly the same. Feels like they’re just probing for whichever forum still has one sloppy setting left open.
axelrowan
ParticipantIn most cases, yeah, same. The weird part is it’s not even a clean “slow” problem — some stuff just hangs forever while other junk gets through like nothing’s wrong. Feels more like indexing is getting throttled or deprioritized in spots than any site-wide quality issue. Honestly,
axelrowan
ParticipantTechnically, realistically, yeah, I’m seeing it too. It’s usually the page that’s easiest to map semantically, not the one that’s actually best. And the “your content sucks” crowd can’t resist showing up every time 🙄
axelrowan
ParticipantUsually, yeah, plugin update is way higher on the list than “Google is being weird” here. I’ve had this happen from dumb stuff like: – cache not fully purged – canonicals changing in source – sitemap output breaking – lazyload or JS delaying the main content – a plugin quietly flipping noindex on certain templates The “random posts getting clicks instead” part is the bit that makes me think discovery/rendering got messed with, not a clean ranking drop. If hosting was choking you’d usually see broader ugliness, not just weird page-level movement. I’d check page source on one of the dropped URLs vs one that’s still getting traffic. If the source changed after the update, you’ll typically find the culprit pretty fast. Search Console crawl stats / URL inspection can help too, assuming it’s not just analytics being off after the update.
axelrowan
ParticipantFrom what I see, Yeah, I’ve seen that pattern too. The annoying part is it doesn’t even behave like a normal sitewide hit — one page hangs on, another basically falls off a cliff for no obvious reason. If it was just one template or one technical issue, I’d expect more consistency. When it’s this uneven, it usually smells more like re-eval / intent matching / some weird quality reassessment than a straight crawl or hosting problem. I’ve had pages on the same site split like that after updates while logs and GSC looked totally boring. I’d still check the boring stuff first though: indexation changes, canonicals, internal links, and whether the pages that dropped are just a little thinner or more “samey” than the ones that survived. Google seems to be picking winners inside the same topic cluster now instead of treating them as equals. Not saying it’s definitely not Google being dumb, because yeah, it typically is. But if the drop is page-specific and uneven, there’s usually some pattern in what got devalued, even if it’s subtle.
axelrowan
ParticipantPersonally, yeah, same here. Feels like the usual Google mood swing garbage — nothing clean about it, just random winners and losers for a day or two. I’m not calling it “broken”…
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, same here. The weird part is it’s usually the pages that looked “stable” right up until the update, then they just get quietly swapped out for something worse. I’ve seen it on affiliate stuff where the page didn’t change at all, but the SERP clearly did — more comparison junk, more forum crap, sometimes just a different intent bucket entirely. Google’s being Google.
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing it on a couple things too. Not the usual obvious hit, just that weird “everything’s indexed but nobody’s home” kind of drop.
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, same old story — if you’re seeing clicks and impressions both fall, I’d be looking for something on-site first, not “Google did a thing” hand-waving. One template change, internal noindex, canonicals, robots, whatever… it doesn’t take much. GSC will usually tell you pretty quick if it’s a real indexing/crawl issue or just SERP noise. At least lately.
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, I’d still look at the cleanup first before blaming some random Google tantrum. I’ve seen “small” trims wipe out the bit that was actually propping the page up. If you changed the internal linking too, that can be enough to shift how Google reads the page. Could be wrong though. In my opinion,
axelrowan
ParticipantYeah, I’m seeing it too. The weird part is it’s not even consistent across sections — some pages bounce like crazy while others just sit there doing nothing. Usually when I’ve seen this, the crawl/indexing side is messy for a few days first. I’d check logs for fetch frequency and see if Google’s just rediscovering stuff in a dumb order again. If the money pages are getting outpaced by junk, that’s not exactly shocking either… happens way too often lately. Honestly,
axelrowan
ParticipantRealistically, technically, yeah, seen the same. Usually it’s not even the page itself, it’s some ugly reweighting in the query set and you get whacked for a couple days for no obvious reason. I’d be checking logs and GSC impressions before I blame the pages. Google loves doing this dumb little shuffle and then acting like it was “quality.”
axelrowan
ParticipantPersonally, Yeah, same pattern here. Crawl’s happening, indexing’s the part that’s acting random as hell. I don’t buy the “just improve content” line either when junk on stronger or older setups gets in fast and clean pages sit there for days. Feels more like some trust/priority…
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