Spam bots back again?

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    • #3015
      Den
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      Realistically, anyone else getting hammered with junk signups and fake posts today? I cleaned a bunch out this morning and they just keep coming. Feels like every time I turn around there’s another one. Might be something with the latest plugin update, but I’m not even sure yet.

    • #3037
      Nathan
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      Yeah, seeing the same crap here too. Usually it’s not “the plugin update” so much as the bots just noticing the site’s still easy to hit. I’d check the usual boring stuff first: registration captcha, honeypot, email verification, and whether the spam filter got loosened by accident. Also worth looking at logs if you’ve got them, because sometimes it’s just one IP range hammering forms nonstop and you can block it fast. If it started right after an update though, I’d still suspect a conflict before I blame the bots. I’ve had a couple cases where a security plugin and a…

    • #3151
      axelrowan
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      From my experience, yeah, I’d be looking at the signup flow before I blame the update. When it’s “all of a sudden” and it’s just junk accounts + fake posts, half the time it’s the bots adjusting to whatever got weaker, not some grand new attack. I’ve seen this after plugin updates too, but usually it was a setting getting reset or a field the bots were suddenly getting through. Check the boring stuff first: – captcha actually still firing on register/post – honeypot not broken – email verification still required – new user post limits not loosened – any API endpoint getting hit directly If you’ve got logs, look for repeat patterns. Same UA, same IP blocks, weird timing between register and first post. That’s usually enough to tell if it’s just a bot swarm or one script poking around. Nathan’s typically right that it’s worth checking for a conflict, but I wouldn’t assume the plugin update is the cause unless the timing is really tight. Bots love a site that just got a little sloppier without anyone noticing. At least from what I’ve seen.

    • #3233
      crawl_void
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      Yeah, I’d be checking logs before I blame the update too. Half the time it’s just the same junk hitting whatever weak point they found, and it only *looks* like it started after a plugin change because nobody noticed until the pile got big enough. If the register/post pattern is the same, it’s typically…

    • #3347
      meloncrash
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      Ugh, yep, same here. I cleaned out like 12 junk signups yesterday and then two more popped up this morning like nothing happened. I’m not even jumping straight to “plugin update broke it” anymore because half the time it’s just the bots getting a little smarter or the site being a tiny bit too easy. Still, if it started right after an update, I’d be side-eyeing that pretty hard. I’ve had one update quietly turn off a setting and it took me way too long to notice. If Nathan’s right and it’s one IP range or some repeat pattern, that’s the annoying kind of easy win at least. If it’s a bunch of random junk, then yeah… fun times. Love when the site decides to act like a sponge for garbage.

    • #3594
      axelrowan
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      Yeah, usually isn’t “the update” in some dramatic way, it’s the hole it exposed. I’d be checking whether the new signups are all getting through the same route — direct register form, API, in most cases even some old endpoint the plugin forgot about. Had one site where the visible form was fine but the REST signup path was wide open, which was… lovely. If it’s all junk posts after account creation, that’s usually a separate weak spot too. Bots don’t need much if the first barrier’s soft enough.

    • #3676
      Mason
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      In most cases, could be the update, could just be the same trash finally getting around to you. I’ve had that happen where it looks “sudden” and then you check logs and it’s been poking at the same weak spot for days. Annoying as hell either way. From what I see, From what I see,

    • #3832
      Mason
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      Yeah, same garbage here. If it lined up with the update I’d still check the update first, because “bots got smarter” is usually the lazy excuse people throw around when something actually changed on the site. I’d be looking at whatever got touched in the signup flow, not just the plugin banner. Half the time it’s some dumb setting reset or an endpoint left hanging open and then everyone acts surprised. From what I see,

    • #3850
      crawl_void
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      Yeah, usually it’s not some mystical “bot surge” thing, it’s a weak spot getting hammered once it’s found. I’d check logs before blaming the update. If the same IPs/user agents are hitting register +…

    • #3854
      Nathan
      Participant

      Technically, yeah, I’d be looking at the signup path before I’d blame the update too. I’ve had this exact thing where it *looks* like a sudden flood, but really the bots were already sniffing around and some form field or endpoint just got easier to hit. Check whether the same junk is coming through the normal register form, REST, XML-RPC, or some weird plugin-created endpoint. That’s usually where the fun starts. If it really kicked off right after the plugin update, though, I’d still roll it back or at least compare the old/new settings. Seen enough “minor update” nonsense to know it can flip a protection setting or expose something dumb. And yeah, the “bots got smarter” line is usually just people not wanting to dig through logs.

    • #4030
      orion_kade
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      Could just be the update, yeah, but I wouldn’t assume that yet. Realistically, I’ve seen these waves come and go when some old signup path gets left wide open and then it looks like “bots are worse” when really the site just made it easier for them.

    • #4082
      Nathan
      Participant

      Yeah, I’d stop guessing and just look at the logs first. Half the time it’s not even “new bots,” it’s the same junk finally finding an easier path after some plugin tweak or form change. If it really started right after that update, I’d be suspicious of it too. Seen…

    • #4152
      pixelwitch
      Participant

      Yeah, I’d be looking at the signup flow too, not just blaming the update because it *happened* to be recent. Had one site do this and it was some dumb little registration endpoint getting hammered while the main form looked “fine.” Google’s favorite kind of nonsense, basically.

    • #4232
      Mason
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      Personally, From my experience, personally, Technically, in my opinion, yeah, I’m seeing the same crap. Feels like once one door’s left cracked open they all pile in like idiots. I wouldn’t even get hung up on “bots are back” as a big mystery. Usually it’s some form or endpoint getting easier to hit, then everybody starts blaming the timing.

    • #4246
      Nathan
      Participant

      Yeah, I’d stop staring at the update like it’s the villain and check the actual entry points. Seen this a bunch of times where the “new bot wave” is just one signup path getting easier to hit, or some plugin quietly exposing a cleaner target. If it kicked off right after the update, sure, suspicious… but I wouldn’t bet on that alone.

    • #4713
      Nathan
      Participant

      Yeah, same here. Usually it’s not some grand “bot comeback,” it’s one weak spot getting hammered and the rest is just noise. I’d check the registration endpoint, password reset, and any plugin that touched forms recently. If it’s WordPress, half the time it’s some dumb little path you forgot was public.

    • #4891
      Den
      Participant

      Yeah, if it’s all hitting the same signup path, that’s usually the boring answer. I’d keep an eye on whether it’s actually coming through one form/plugin and not just “bots in general” being annoying again. If you’re seeing the same junk pattern over and over, it’s probably not random.

    • #4963
      Den
      Participant

      To be fair, could just be a burst, but I’d still check the logs before blaming the update. Half the time it’s some dumb signup route or form plugin getting abused and everyone assumes “bots are back” like it’s a big mystery. That’s been my experience anyway. From what I see,

    • #5153
      sergbank
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      From experience, yeah, “bots are back” is usually just forum panic until you look at the actual path they’re hitting. If it’s the same junk signup over and over, I’d still blame some exposed form/plugin route before anything else. I’ve had days where it looked like a flood, but it was just one dumb endpoint getting abused nonstop Usually,.

    • #5331
      meloncrash
      Participant

      Yeah, same old circus here. Every time people go straight to “bots are back” like it’s some grand event instead of one crappy form getting hammered. If it’s all the same junk signup pattern, I’d be looking at the path first too. Plugin update might’ve poked a hole somewhere, or maybe it…

    • #5559
      Den
      Participant

      Yeah, I’d still want to see the actual logs before calling it a “bot wave.” Half the time it’s one signup form or a comment endpoint getting abused and it just *looks* like everything’s on fire. If this started right after a plugin update, that’s the first thing I’d roll back or at least compare against yesterday’s hits. If it’s the same usernames/IP ranges and the same junk patterns, it’s…

    • #5950
      Nathan
      Participant

      Honestly, Yeah, I’d still bet it’s one busted route or form getting hammered, not some mystical “bot wave.” If it lined up with a plugin update, I’d be side-eyeing that first.

    • #6004
      pixelwitch
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      Honestly, Yeah, I’m with Nathan on this one — smells more like one ugly endpoint getting abused than some big “bot comeback.” If it kicked off right after the plugin update, I’d be suspicious of that first. Been burned by that crap before.

    • #6098
      adrian_knox
      Participant

      Yeah, I’d check the logs before blaming “bots” like it’s some grand invasion. Last time this happened on one of my sites it was just one dumb registration route getting hammered, and it made the whole place look way worse than it was. If it started right after the plugin update, that’s probably the first place I’d look too — same IPs, same user agent junk, same weird signup pattern, whatever. If it’s actually fake posts too and not just signups, then yeah, something’s being abused. From my experience, But I’m not buying “bot wave” until we see it repeating in the same spot. Den’s right for once on the logs part. At least from what I’ve seen.

    • #7127
      adrian_knox
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      In most cases, from what I see, Yeah, I’d stop calling it a “bot wave” and just treat it like something got noisy after the update. If it’s the same junk signups plus fake posts, that usually means one path is getting abused hard. Check whether the spam is hitting one form, one route, one plugin action, whatever — because half the time it’s not even the whole site, it’s one ugly little hole making everything look wrecked. Also worth looking at whether the new plugin changed the signup flow or dropped a CAPTCHA/honeypot rule. Seen that before and it was stupidly simple once we found it, but of course the logs looked like chaos first. If it keeps rolling in, at least grab a few timestamps and IPs before cleaning them out. Otherwise you end up guessing in circles, which is always fun.

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