Weird plugin conflicts after latest update

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    • #5818
      Nathan
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      Personally, Not sure if it’s just me, but one of my sites started acting up right after a couple plugin updates this week. From my experience, Random layout stuff, admin lag, and the cache seems to be fighting itself for no reason. I already rolled back one plugin and it helped a bit, but it still feels off. Anyone else seeing weird conflicts lately, or am I just having one of those stupid hosting days?

    • #5936
      hankroot
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      From what I see, Yeah, I’ve seen that happen plenty of times after “just a couple updates.” Usually it’s not even the plugin you blame first, it’s the dumb combo of plugin + cache + some half-broken JS on the admin side. Had one client site do this last month — front end looked fine-ish, but wp-admin was crawling and the layout was getting weird until we killed one optimization plugin and cleared every cache layer we could find. Of course the host swore nothing changed on their end. If rolling one plugin back helped a bit, I’d be suspicious of whatever’s touching caching/minification first. Those are the ones that love to pretend they’re helping while making everything feel haunted. Personally,

    • #6332
      pixelwitch
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      Yeah, I’d be looking at the cache/optimization stuff first too. That’s usually where the “everything suddenly feels possessed” nonsense starts. I had one last week where the admin was laggy as hell after a couple plugin updates, and it turned out to be two plugins both trying to be clever with JS defer/minify. Front end was only slightly weird, but wp-admin was a mess until I shut one of them off. Of course the host support did the usual “we don’t see any issue” routine. If you already rolled one back and it helped a bit, that’s probably not nothing. I’d still test with all cache layers off for a bit — plugin cache, server cache, CDN if you’ve got it — just to see if the weirdness disappears. If it does, you’ve got your culprit-ish. If not, then yeah, it might be one of those stupid hosting days after all.

    • #6582
      axelrowan
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      Yeah, that’s usually where I’d look first too. “Couple plugin updates” is how these things always start, then you spend an hour chasing some stupid minify/cache overlap. I’ve had wp-admin get weird from one optimization plugin touching stuff it had no business touching. If rolling one back helped even a little, I’d be suspicious of whatever’s doing asset handling before blaming the host.

    • #6808
      meloncrash
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      I mean, yeah, not just you. I’ve had that “everything’s technically fine but it feels cursed” thing after updates more times than I can count. Honestly I’d still blame cache/minify before anything else. The host always says “no changes” like that means something.

    • #7058
      crawl_void
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      In most cases, yeah, sounds like plugin soup to me, not some mystical hosting curse. If admin lag showed up right after updates, I’d be looking at whatever’s touching JS/CSS first, then object cache/transients if you’ve got any of that layered on top. Two plugins trying to “optimize” the same thing is how you get that half-broken, half-fine nonsense. I’ve seen it where rolling back one plugin only masks it because the other one’s still fighting with the cache stack. Annoying as hell.

    • #7305
      adrian_knox
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      Yeah, sounds like plugin nonsense more than the host. If rolling one back helped, I’d keep poking at the last couple updates instead of chasing ghosts. The “admin lag + layout weirdness” combo usually ends up being some dumb overlap in cache/minify/JS handling. I’d probably just disable the suspicious ones one by one and see which one stops the mess. Not glamorous, but it beats guessing. That’s been…

    • #7379
      meloncrash
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      Obviously. Well, yeah, “hosting day” is usually just code for “some plugin decided to be clever and broke the site.” I’d still suspect the cache/minify side first too. Had one where the admin was laggy as hell and it turned out to be two different plugins both trying to optimize the same files. Of course they both swore they were innocent.

    • #7553
      meloncrash
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      Yeah, “plugin soup” is right, but I wouldn’t completely rule out the host being weird either if the timing was right. Had this exact kind of nonsense where one update didn’t *break* anything outright, it just made the whole admin feel like it was wading through mud. Rolled back the “obvious” plugin and it got better, but not fixed, becouse the real culprit was some other garbage touching cache stuff in the background. I’d be side-eyeing anything with minify/cache/optimization first. Those things love pretending they’re harmless until they aren’t. Interesting take.

    • #7735
      Mason
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      From what I see, That’s not really accurate. yeah, that’s usually plugin soup, not some mystical hosting curse. If rolling one back helped even a little, I’d be looking at the last 2-3 updates hard. Cache/minify stuff is always the usual clown show Technically,. Seen this way too many times where the admin starts dragging and the layout gets weird because two plugins think they own the same files. Honestly I’d trust the rollback more than the “it’s the host” theory unless the whole server’s acting up. Just my experience.

    • #7823
      meloncrash
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      Obviously. From what I’ve seen, right… Yeah, I’ve seen that exact “everything’s fine except it isn’t” mess after updates. Usually it’s one of those stupid combo problems where the plugin itself isn’t *broken* but it changed something tiny and now cache/minify/admin assets are tripping over each other. Had one site where the frontend looked mostly okay, but wp-admin was acting drunk until I killed the optimization plugin for a bit. Of course it wasn’t the one I expected. If you already rolled one back and it only helped a little, I’d be looking at anything touching cache, JS/CSS combine, lazy load, or “performance” crap first. Those are always the ones that pretend they’re helping while quietly making the site miserable. Also wouldn’t totally dismiss the host, but if the timing lines up with plugin updates, that’s usually where I’d put my money. Host issues don’t normally show up as “random layout weirdness” unless something’s already poking at files on the plugin side.

    • #7903
      Den
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      Yeah, I’d still be looking at the last few plugin updates before blaming the host. If wp-admin is laggy *and* the layout’s acting weird, that usually smells like some cache/optimization thing stepping on itself. I’ve had that “rolled one back and it got a bit better but not fully” nonsense too — always means there’s another plugin still involved somewhere. If you want, list the plugins that updated and I’ll tell you which one looks most likely to be the troublemaker. Personally,

    • #8395
      adrian_knox
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      Yeah, this is almost always the “one plugin updated and now three others are acting innocent” thing. If rollback helped even a little, I wouldn’t chase the host first. I’d check the last couple updates, especially anything cache/minify/optimization related. Those are usually the ones that make admin feel slow and make the frontend go weird in ways that don’t look obviously related. Also worth clearing whatever cache layers you’ve got after the rollback. I’ve seen people undo the bad plugin and still think it’s broken because the old junk is still sitting there. If it keeps happening, disable the recent updates one by one instead of guessing. Annoying, yeah, but faster than staring at logs waiting for a miracle.

    • #8407
      crawl_void
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      Technically, yeah, that’s usually not “random” at all — it’s some cache/optimization plugin stepping on the new version and then everyone acts surprised. If rollback only helped a bit, I’d assume there’s still another layer hanging around. From my experience, Clear all caches, disable anything touching minify/combine/lazyload, then re-test. If you’ve got object cache or server-side cache in the mix, that stuff can make it look way worse than it is.

    • #8681
      meloncrash
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      Yeah, I’m not buying “just the host” on this one either. Last time I had that combo it was some stupid optimizer plugin doing its own thing after an update and making the admin crawl like it was on dial-up. Rolled it back and it was *better*, but still janky until I killed the cache everywhere and rebuilt it. If Den’s theory is right, cool, but half the time it’s the usual “one plugin updated and three others start acting possessed” mess. Personally,

    • #8909
      meloncrash
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      From what I’ve seen, honestly, yeah, same old circus. If rollback only helped a bit, I’d still be looking at whatever cache/optimizer junk is in the pile. I’ve had that “admin feels like it’s dragging through mud” thing happen after an update and it was *not* the host, despite the usual “must be your server bro” nonsense people love to toss around. Honestly sounds like one plugin updated and the rest started pretending they were innocent. Clear everything, kill any minify/combine nonsense, and check if object cache is still holding onto stale crap. If it’s still weird after that, then yeah, start disabling the recent updates one by one and see which one’s acting up. The amount of times I’ve seen a site look broken when it was just two plugins fighting over the same hooks… ridiculous. Right…

    • #9009
      Pike
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      Yeah, I’ve seen that exact dumb combo before. Usually it’s not *just* one plugin, it’s one update waking up a couple other garbage fires. If rollback only helped a bit, I’d be looking at cache/object cache first too. The admin lag thing especially screams “something’s still holding stale crap” more than host issue, but who knows, half these plugin devs ship updates like they never tested them on a real site.

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